“Annual members are entitled to $5,000 worth of Accidental Death and Dismemberment insurance coverage for no additional cost. This means that if an individual member experiences an accident at an NRA event or when using equipment or firearms while hunting, they are compensated up to the limits of the policy. This can give an individual added peace of mind, especially if they are avid hunters. In addition, those who choose to become life members are entitled to $10,000 worth of Accidental Death and Dismemberment coverage.”
— If guns are so good at keeping you safe, why does an NRA membership include “Accidental Death and Dismemberment insurance coverage”?
Please tell me I’m simply missing a dose of sarcasm in that post. I don’t want to believe that anyone could be that blind to what the term “accidental” means.
Any time, any time that there’s human involvement in something, accidents can happen. Failure to properly clean and maintain a gun can have catastrophic results when trying to fire it. A person can lose their grip and drop a firearm, which can potentially go off upon striking the ground. Forgetting to verify a weapon is clear can lead to accidentally firing off a round one didn’t even know was chambered.
This is the same reason we have insurance coverage for our cars and homes: the vast majority of us don’t plan on intentionally causing bad things to happen, but sometimes they do anyway.
Yeah. And stair railings. Don’t forget how when you buy stair railings, you always get AD&D insurance. Because everything in the freakin’ world that’s supposed to keep you safe is exactly as dangerous as a loaded gun and should come with “if it blows your head off” insurance.
If it weren’t for very bad arguments, gun clowns wouldn’t have any arguments at all.
Creationist offers bad reason to deny reality.
Raw Story: Creationist author Terry Mortenson doesn’t understand how an atheist like Bill Nye “the Science Guy” can find joy in scientific discoveries.
Following the debate between Nye and Creation Museum founder Ken Ham on Tuesday night, Mortenson sat down with Creation Today co-hosts Eric Hovind and Paul Taylor to discuss the event.
“I was kind of intrigued by one of Bill’s last comments about the joy of discovery, but I thought, what is the joy of realizing that I came from pond scum as a result of an explosion and that eventually I’m going to die and I won’t be here, I won’t remember that I ever lived, nobody else will ever remember,” Mortenson said. “What is the joy of that? It is purposeless, as Richard Dawkins and William Provine and others have said.”
“There is no purpose,” he continued. “There is no morality. All you have in evolution in is what is is. It’s the survival of the fittest and if I’m stronger than you and I’m a lion and you’re a gazelle, sorry, you’re my lunch. And if I’m Hitler and you’re a Jew, sorry, you’re lunch. And if I am outside the body and you’re in the mother’s womb, and I don’t want you, sorry, you’re lunch.”
“There is no basis of morality or purpose, and Bill is stealing from the Christian worldview to find joy in discovery when there is no purpose or meaning to it.”
We can dismiss a lot of this as non-argument. Just because I’m aware of my mortality doesn’t mean I’m incapable of joy. And how does the knowledge that you’re descended from less complex life forms somehow give you free reign to abandon morality and eat babies? It makes no logical sense.
But put aside all the hyperbole and consider the actual, underlying argument: that Mortensen finds evolution unsettling, so he chooses not to believe it. Further, since evolutionary theory is so disturbing, Mortensen argues that it cannot be true. I find the existence of things like Two and a Half Men and Lite Beer a nightmarish indictment of American tastes — but that doesn’t mean it’s logical to conclude that they don’t exist. It just means that there are facts out there that I’d rather not be true. Sucks to be me, but I have to accept it.
And this comes up so often that we can easily say it’s a cornerstone of the creationist pseudo-science; “I find it too disturbing, therefore it can’t exist.” This isn’t logic, this is wishful thinking. In fact, this is the very definition of wishful thinking. The fact that they think this is a compelling argument shows that logic is a completely foreign concept to creationists.
When your reasoning is this flawed, the odds that your argument is solid are slim to none.
Police Chief accidentally discharges weapon while keeping people safe at gun shop.
“I need to pay more attention,” David Counceller said. “I know what the dangers are. It was pure carelessness on my part.”
Counceller, who was off-duty at the time, was comparing his 40-caliber Glock handgun with a newer model at Wullf’s Gun Shop. The trouble began when he began to holster his weapon.
“It got tangled in my clothing,” he added, as quoted by the Star. “I was wearing a sweatshirt and a fleece jacket. I felt (the gun) go in the holster and I pushed it, but it was tangled in the material which caused it to discharge. The bullet went into my leg and then into the floor.”
This is actually the second time Councellor has shot himself accidentally.
Look, here’s the thing; this guy has had more training in using a firearm than most people and he’s still had two accidental discharges happen while he wasn’t thinking. Humans are imperfect creatures and no matter how much you prepare and train, you are going to make mistakes. Your mind will wander, you’ll get distracted, etc. For whatever reason, you won’t always be paying attention to your firearm.
And this is why having people walk around armed is dangerous and stupid. And the more people there are doing it, the more dangerous it becomes. That’s just math. It’s human nature to sometimes suck at what you’re doing — even if you’ve done it hundreds or even thousands of times before. To get an idea of what it would be like if everyone carried a gun, take a trip on your local freeway sometime. Every time you think, “What’s this clown think he’s doing?” think, “What’s this clown think he’s doing with that gun?” Every time someone cuts you off or merges without looking, don’t just think, “Idiot!” think, “Idiot with a gun!”
These are all people who probably drive several times a day and they still make mistakes, because they’re human. They’d be no less human in handling a firearm.
The idea that more guns make us safer is not only not born out by the facts, but it’s such an illogical statement that anyone making it should be made to feel embarrassed by all the derisive laughter they’ve invited.
Q:I'd like to make a point that I support the second amendment despite being a democrat.
I’m not anti-Second Amendment. I’m anti- the idea that the Second Amendment created the only unlimited right in the entire Constitution, let alone the Bill of Rights.
The idea that the Second makes any and all firearms regulations automatically unconstitutional is absurd.
How is it absurd? Its how they wrote it? Also whats absurd about unabridged rights? Democrats are pretty upset that the right of gays to get married are abridged.
And your claim that its the only amendment like that is wholly false. You are either misinformed, or a liar.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Awesome! I’ll be over to yell “ASSHOLE!” 100 times through a megaphone in your driveway at 4:00am daily.
Or would you say that perhaps my right to free speech isn’t quite as unabridged as you’d originally thought?
youre changing goalposts. Before you were talking about the amendments, now youre talking about local ordinances and laws in practice.
the same argument can be made for guns. Cant own grenades, fully automatic weapons? only if in the right state an after registering with th ATF and paying a tax stamp for each one. Most states only allow concealed carry with a license. some states have banned open carry completely. Before this year Illinois was the only state where both kinds of carry was completely banned.
How many background checks did you have to pass to post on facebook, or tumblr? or to rent a book from the library? zero.
How many do you have to pass to buy a gun from a dealer? One for every gun you buy, or trade.
age limit for free speech? Only for pornography. Almost everything with guns is limited based on age.
Also, your argument is a massive strawman. And a non-sequitor to boot. Just because we are limited on one right doesnt justify limiting another. Plus its not even justified that we dont have true freedom of speech. i cant say fuck on TV.
And anyway, havent you heard of protesting? its basically what you described. As long as you stay in the public road you can scream whatever you want. Doesnt mean I cant scream back at you. Or maybe Ill sit on my lawn disassembling and cleaning my guns. Since were exercising our rights that is.
Wow. You really do excel at missing the point, don’t you?
The First Amendment says that my right to freedom of speech can’t be abridged. Yet it’s entirely constitutional for governments to pass laws against nuisance speech. Hence, “abridged” doesn’t mean what you think it means in a legal sense and my right to free speech is not without limits.
Same with the Second. Even Antonin Scalia agrees that the government can regulate firearms and your right to bear arms is already limited — you can’t own chemical weapons, which fall under the very unspecific constitutional term “arms.” No one’s outraged that you’ve been “disarmed” of all your ricin.
There is no such thing as an unlimited right, as I just demonstrated. as for the rest of your reply, you sure are using a lot of words where “I’m sorry, you’re right” would’ve done the trick.
Stop pulling “news” articles from liberals’s propaganda websites
Classic case of killing the messenger because you don’t like the message. Prove it’s not true or STFU.