Remember when CNN determined that 80% of the 74 “school shootings since sandy hook” study that you all reblogged so hard was bullshit? I bet none of you will acknowledge that because it doesn’t fit your agenda/proves that your cause has to pad numbers and bullshit to try to make a point.
Yeah buddy, it’s terribly dishonest to consider shootings that happen at schools to be ‘school shootings.’ CNN’s hacks decided on an arbitrary definition of ‘school shooting,’ then proceeded to discount everything that didn’t fit — as if bullets whizzing down the hallway from a gang member’s gun are somehow safer than bullets from a deranged gunman.
And really, what’s your argument here? Is 15 the acceptable number? Is that the magic number that allows us the moral leeway to sit around with our thumbs up our asses doing nothing?
Except you are so daft, it’s not even remotely amusing.
The USB key was essentially developed by a computer whiz to store data, information and other software in a mobile source from one computer to the other. The slasher you see up there was created to cut open solid objects like boxes, ropes, etc but to also carve and slice inanimate objects. The lighter you see up there was made for cigarettes. The first three objects have domestic, legitimate use.
The gun, in contrast, has no other domestic objectives and usage. It was specifically made to kill. That is all. Kill. You don’t use a gun to store software programs, you don’t use a gun to peel an orange, you don’t use a gun to light a cigarette up. You use a gun to kill.
Try another comparison. Stop embarrassing yourselves.
Let me put this in a way rightwingers will understand: if I take a bunch of ladders and set them just on the other side of a southern border fence, is it silly to think that the easy availability of the means to commit a crime is going to result in an uptick in that crime or is it more reasonable to think that these inaminate ladders will have no effect on the number of undocumented people climbing over that fence?
“Annual members are entitled to $5,000 worth of Accidental Death and Dismemberment insurance coverage for no additional cost. This means that if an individual member experiences an accident at an NRA event or when using equipment or firearms while hunting, they are compensated up to the limits of the policy. This can give an individual added peace of mind, especially if they are avid hunters. In addition, those who choose to become life members are entitled to $10,000 worth of Accidental Death and Dismemberment coverage.”
— If guns are so good at keeping you safe, why does an NRA membership include “Accidental Death and Dismemberment insurance coverage”?
Please tell me I’m simply missing a dose of sarcasm in that post. I don’t want to believe that anyone could be that blind to what the term “accidental” means.
Any time, any time that there’s human involvement in something, accidents can happen. Failure to properly clean and maintain a gun can have catastrophic results when trying to fire it. A person can lose their grip and drop a firearm, which can potentially go off upon striking the ground. Forgetting to verify a weapon is clear can lead to accidentally firing off a round one didn’t even know was chambered.
This is the same reason we have insurance coverage for our cars and homes: the vast majority of us don’t plan on intentionally causing bad things to happen, but sometimes they do anyway.
Yeah. And stair railings. Don’t forget how when you buy stair railings, you always get AD&D insurance. Because everything in the freakin’ world that’s supposed to keep you safe is exactly as dangerous as a loaded gun and should come with “if it blows your head off” insurance.
If it weren’t for very bad arguments, gun clowns wouldn’t have any arguments at all.
Creationist offers bad reason to deny reality.
Raw Story: Creationist author Terry Mortenson doesn’t understand how an atheist like Bill Nye “the Science Guy” can find joy in scientific discoveries.
Following the debate between Nye and Creation Museum founder Ken Ham on Tuesday night, Mortenson sat down with Creation Today co-hosts Eric Hovind and Paul Taylor to discuss the event.
“I was kind of intrigued by one of Bill’s last comments about the joy of discovery, but I thought, what is the joy of realizing that I came from pond scum as a result of an explosion and that eventually I’m going to die and I won’t be here, I won’t remember that I ever lived, nobody else will ever remember,” Mortenson said. “What is the joy of that? It is purposeless, as Richard Dawkins and William Provine and others have said.”
“There is no purpose,” he continued. “There is no morality. All you have in evolution in is what is is. It’s the survival of the fittest and if I’m stronger than you and I’m a lion and you’re a gazelle, sorry, you’re my lunch. And if I’m Hitler and you’re a Jew, sorry, you’re lunch. And if I am outside the body and you’re in the mother’s womb, and I don’t want you, sorry, you’re lunch.”
“There is no basis of morality or purpose, and Bill is stealing from the Christian worldview to find joy in discovery when there is no purpose or meaning to it.”
We can dismiss a lot of this as non-argument. Just because I’m aware of my mortality doesn’t mean I’m incapable of joy. And how does the knowledge that you’re descended from less complex life forms somehow give you free reign to abandon morality and eat babies? It makes no logical sense.
But put aside all the hyperbole and consider the actual, underlying argument: that Mortensen finds evolution unsettling, so he chooses not to believe it. Further, since evolutionary theory is so disturbing, Mortensen argues that it cannot be true. I find the existence of things like Two and a Half Men and Lite Beer a nightmarish indictment of American tastes — but that doesn’t mean it’s logical to conclude that they don’t exist. It just means that there are facts out there that I’d rather not be true. Sucks to be me, but I have to accept it.
And this comes up so often that we can easily say it’s a cornerstone of the creationist pseudo-science; “I find it too disturbing, therefore it can’t exist.” This isn’t logic, this is wishful thinking. In fact, this is the very definition of wishful thinking. The fact that they think this is a compelling argument shows that logic is a completely foreign concept to creationists.
When your reasoning is this flawed, the odds that your argument is solid are slim to none.
Police Chief accidentally discharges weapon while keeping people safe at gun shop.
“I need to pay more attention,” David Counceller said. “I know what the dangers are. It was pure carelessness on my part.”
Counceller, who was off-duty at the time, was comparing his 40-caliber Glock handgun with a newer model at Wullf’s Gun Shop. The trouble began when he began to holster his weapon.
“It got tangled in my clothing,” he added, as quoted by the Star. “I was wearing a sweatshirt and a fleece jacket. I felt (the gun) go in the holster and I pushed it, but it was tangled in the material which caused it to discharge. The bullet went into my leg and then into the floor.”
This is actually the second time Councellor has shot himself accidentally.
Look, here’s the thing; this guy has had more training in using a firearm than most people and he’s still had two accidental discharges happen while he wasn’t thinking. Humans are imperfect creatures and no matter how much you prepare and train, you are going to make mistakes. Your mind will wander, you’ll get distracted, etc. For whatever reason, you won’t always be paying attention to your firearm.
And this is why having people walk around armed is dangerous and stupid. And the more people there are doing it, the more dangerous it becomes. That’s just math. It’s human nature to sometimes suck at what you’re doing — even if you’ve done it hundreds or even thousands of times before. To get an idea of what it would be like if everyone carried a gun, take a trip on your local freeway sometime. Every time you think, “What’s this clown think he’s doing?” think, “What’s this clown think he’s doing with that gun?” Every time someone cuts you off or merges without looking, don’t just think, “Idiot!” think, “Idiot with a gun!”
These are all people who probably drive several times a day and they still make mistakes, because they’re human. They’d be no less human in handling a firearm.
The idea that more guns make us safer is not only not born out by the facts, but it’s such an illogical statement that anyone making it should be made to feel embarrassed by all the derisive laughter they’ve invited.